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- Mar. 05, 1990: Ex, Lies And Videotape
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- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1990
- Mar. 05, 1990 Gossip
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- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- NATION, Page 17
- Ex, Lies and Videotape
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- <body>
- <p>Confused by Iran-contra? So is Ronald Reagan
- </p>
- <p> Sure, said Ronald Reagan, he believed in the Nicaraguan
- contras and wanted them to prosper. But he never instructed his
- aides to violate a congressional prohibition on giving them
- Government aid. He never knew that the profits from secret arms
- sales to Iran had been used to arm the anti-Sandinista
- guerrillas. His admonition to his staff, he insisted, was
- always, "We don't break the law."
- </p>
- <p> Amiable and avuncular as ever, the former President, now 79,
- emerged from retirement to reprise his role as the chief of
- state who grasped the big picture but did not bother with the
- little one. During eight hours of videotaped testimony in a Los
- Angeles courtroom on Feb. 16 and 17 (a 293-page transcript was
- released last week), Reagan occasionally bantered with the
- Iran-contra special prosecutor and with lawyers for former
- National Security Adviser John Poindexter, who faces trial on
- five counts of obstructing a congressional investigation and
- making false statements to Congress. He gave no sign that he
- had resisted being called to testify as a defense witness for
- Poindexter.
- </p>
- <p> But if Poindexter's lawyers had hoped that Reagan's
- testimony would help their cause, they must have been
- disappointed. They maintain that the former President had given
- Poindexter what they both believed were directions that
- circumvented the congressional ban on aid to the rebels. Reagan
- provided little support for that contention.
- </p>
- <p> Instead he reverted to his earliest version of his conduct
- during the Iran-contra affair, insisting that he knew little
- or nothing about many key aspects of the fiasco. He provided
- a scrambled account of the origins of secret arms shipments to
- Iran that contradicted the testimony of other witnesses and
- evidence assembled by various investigations. He asserted, for
- example, that the idea had been broached by "a group of
- individuals, citizens of Iran," who wanted to lay the
- groundwork for better relations with the U.S. after the
- Ayatullah Khomeini died. Both the Tower commission and
- congressional investigating committees concluded that the deal
- had in fact been concocted by Israeli officials working with
- Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian businessman with links to
- Khomeini's inner circle. The transactions were handled by
- National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane, with Reagan's
- approval.
- </p>
- <p> On specific meetings, memos, dates, names, Reagan's mind was
- pretty much a blank. General Vessey? "Oh dear, I could ask for
- help here. The name I know is very familiar." (It should be:
- he was Reagan's Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.) Adolfo
- Calero? Reagan could not recall the most famous of the contra
- leaders even after he was shown a picture of the two of them
- together at a White House gathering. He had somehow missed the
- fact that McFarlane pleaded guilty in 1988 to withholding
- information from Congress. Shown the section of the Tower
- commission report that demonstrates that at least in early 1987
- he was able to recall that profits from Iran arms sales were
- used to buy weapons for the contras, he professed surprise.
- "This is the first time I have ever seen that."
- </p>
- <p> Even on those matters he could recall, Reagan seemed to
- undermine Poindexter's defense. He had "no recollection" of
- seeing letters Poindexter sent to Congress in 1986 falsely
- certifying that the Administration was complying "with the
- spirit and the letter" of the Boland amendment banning military
- assistance to the contras. As for siphoning off profits from
- the arms sales, Reagan stated, "All I knew was that there was
- some money that came from someplace in another account, and
- that the appearance was that it might have been a part of the
- negotiated sale. And to this day, I don't have any information
- or knowledge that...there had been a diversion." Had he
- learned of any excess profit, Reagan declared, "I would have
- given it back" to Iran.
- </p>
- <p>By Margaret Carlson. Reported by Jerome Cramer/Washington.
- </p>
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